The committee had regard to its inspection of the site (as agreed in accordance with the Site Inspection: Policy and Procedure (minute P19/04 refers)) during its deliberations.
Officers presented the application to Members and informed them an update had been received in the form of a further petition with an additional 21 signatures in support of the proposal along with an address to planning committee from Councillor Mathias on behalf of Tydd St Giles Parish Council, as per the document handed out - meeting suspended for two minutes to read the update (attached).
Members received a presentation in accordance with the public participation procedure, from Joy Simpson, a local resident.
Mrs Simpson stated that she was speaking against the application and on behalf of a number of parishioners, including those living closest to the proposed site and who strongly oppose this major development for a suburban development in a rural location Flood Zone 3 and outside of the village footprint. This application was virtually identical to one that has been previously refused; it had merely been shifted less than 19 months and 50m down the same narrow country road. The Highway Report submitted to Fenland District Council stated that Broad Drove East varies in width; however a typical width of 3.5m to 4m is inadequate for two vehicles to pass. These objections are made on planning grounds, submitted within the correct timeframe and are the very same planning issues that officers have listed in the recommendation for refusal. It would seem that the decision to reject this application was not determined through delegated responsibility primarily because a late document was received in the form of a petition. The Planning Register shows that part of the petition was received on 12 October which is five weeks after the date for comments deadline and a further update was received yesterday. Supporters of this application have made no attempt to address any of the planning issues. They believe that the undated petition was a doorstep petition, targeted at specific people who might be persuaded to sign it yet not one of the signees chose to respond individually therefore they asked that caution be exercised when considering the petition; what additional information about it did the Council have; is it known who presented the petition on some of the doorsteps and what is their relationship to the landowner or the applicant; does the Council know what information was given to the petitioners regarding the exact location, the scale, character or purpose; does the Council know if anyone involved in the organisation and execution has a financial interest in obtaining signatures in support of the application. Information that the committee can be confident of is that as part of the emerging Neighbourhood plan a questionnaire went out to all residents of the parish, the official feedback from this was that 69% were against any relaxation of planning rules concerning subsidised housing, 72% were against development that was not in keeping with the form and character of the village, 62% said that agricultural land should not be used for building. The parish council has opposed this application stating that it does not comply with the parish council's policy and it is contrary to the express wishes of the residents. The residents have also stipulated that any application must fully comply with Fenland District Council's Local Plan. Tydd St Giles is identified in the Fenland Local Plan as a small village, there are sites within the village and there are sites on Flood Zone 2. The Parish Council opposes, the planning officers recommend refusal and asked that the committee uphold the recommendation for refusal.
Members asked questions of Mrs Simpson:
Councillor Hoy commented that Mrs Simpson had stated that Tydd St Giles did not want any social housing to which Mrs Simpson stated that she had not said the Tydd St Giles parish council had not wanted any social housing but that she had said that as part of the questionnaire that had been sent out to residents, that 69% were against any relaxation of planning rules regarding subsidised housing, nobody had stated that they minded subsidised housing in the right place.
Councillor Owen stated that the letter from Councillor Mathias, the consultation comments and Mrs Simpson's presentation and asked if these dwellings were affordable to buy properties as opposed to social housing to rent, then would this be satisfactory to which Mrs Simpson stated that if it was in the right place then it would be more than satisfactory if it was in Flood Zone 2 and within the footprint of the village then she thought there would be a lot of support but the objectors were objecting, not that it was necessarily a bad idea, but it is an idea that was being proposed in the wrong place as Broad Drove East has sporadic dwellings in a linear development and this application was for a cul de sac in the middle of an agricultural field. Planning Committee has already refused the application when it was 50 yards down the same road.
Members received a presentation in accordance with the public participation procedure, from Jane Melloy, a local resident.
Mrs Melloy stated she had lived in Tydd St Giles for 45 years and had seen many changes; in 1970 properties were either tied agricultural properties or council owned and rented. It was a well-integrated community with no obvious distinctions between families from rented properties or privately owned housing and all the children attended the village school. There have been huge changes over the years, the village has expanded with a large number of people often retired moving into bungalows or larger properties; there has also been a number of large executive homes built. There is a thriving leisure park with more employment opportunities but distinctly lacking is housing for those on a lower income and those with young families. These young people need help to get on the housing ladder and for many, renting is on the only way; there is a good primary school with excellent links to the community and places available for more children, there is also a youth club, large community centre and a well-equipped playing field and a good bus service. She quoted from a recent letter in the Daily Telegraph - I have seen the village transformed from old established families into a community dominated by retired people, people from urban backgrounds and former town dwellers who prefer to commute to work, enjoying what they perceive to be proper country life. Villages like mine are in danger of becoming a place for the fortunate few, self-interested newcomers seeks to prevent the development of modest affordable homes less it interferes with their perception of village life. Mrs Melloy stated that she hoped and prayed that this does not become a description of Tydd St Giles and that she signed the petition and had no financial or any other interest just that it was very sad that new families cannot be welcomed into Tydd St Giles.
Members received a presentation from Carvel Jarvis, a local resident, in accordance with the public participation procedure.
Carvel Jarvis stated that she was a young person, living and working in Tydd St Giles and she was fortunate enough to live in the village because she rented a home from her partner's parents. Her partner's family had lived in the village all their lives and over the decades have seen steady growth within the village that used to include young families establishing themselves within the community. Unfortunately these days young people cannot afford the type of properties that are being developed in Tydd St Giles and have to seek housing in neighbouring towns and villages and not every young person wishes to live in a town; a lot of the council houses are now privately owned and therefore it is difficult to find accommodation easily. The site proposed should be considered ideal as it is close to the community centre, the play area is adjacent and the bus stop just yards away and the village school, which has places and she hoped in the future that her children would be able to attend, that villages petitioned in 1987 to be kept open. If this development was proposed elsewhere there would be objections again as have been proved with other applications; this site is close enough to the village, yet not encroaching on an already built up area. Tydd St Giles is a working village, to keep this village alive now and in the future there must be growth or the village will die. Carvel Jarvis added that the recent petition that was submitted, she had filled in and that she worked in the local pub and had approached customers in the pub and informed them of the development and she had no financial gain from this.
Members asked questions of Jane Melloy and Carvel Jarvis.
Councillor Connor asked if there were enough places within the school to accommodate this to which Mrs Melloy confirmed that there were.
Councillor Owen stated that he was worried that if this application was not granted then what would happen to those families who would have moved in, would these people leave and go elsewhere to which Mrs Melloy stated this was possible as the recent development had been large executive housing with the demography of the village having changed dramatically in the last 4-5 years; there is now a dominance of retired people. Councillor Owen asked if property prices were increasing to which Mrs Melloy stated that Fenland was a low wage area and therefore many cannot afford to pay the deposit needed to buy therefore they need to rent. Carvel Jarvis added that she was 28, worked in the local pub and there were hardly any customers under 45 or 50 years of age; and feared there would eventually be no one in the village her age and the village would die out.
Members received a presentation in accordance with the public participation procedure, from Fiona Coulson, a representative of Roddons, the applicant.
Fiona Coulson stated she represented Roddons Housing Association who had worked with the Parish Council, Cambridgeshire Acre to develop a rural exception scheme in the village to provide affordable housing. A planning application for a scheme on Broad Road East was refused in March 2014 due to location, risk and design rationale; Councillors at that time had suggested that alternative sites be looked at Roddons Board agreed to this and the costs associated with a further planning application. Roddons worked with the Parish Council and Cambridgeshire Acre and identified five alternative sites. These were reviewed and prioritised at a Parish Council meeting on 19 March 2015; the Parish supported the site adjacent to the bungalow on Broad Drove; following approval, further plans were developed and were submitted at a pre-application meeting with Fenland District Council who noted that the most suitable site had been identified by the Parish Council and design rationale was understood. The land available allows for a development in depth which minimises the impact on the street with no overlooking issues; it was agreed that this was the favoured site in the best location for amenities. Through the planning process additional information has been submitted addressing highways and flood risk issues, all of which have been noted. There have been objections to the application and also support from over 100 people in favour of the application. The housing association have identified need for affordable housing of people living in Tydd St Giles or have a strong connection with the village - this means local housing for local people. The site is closer to the school than many of the new houses built near the golf course, the school has capacity to take on pupils and the scheme would help the long term viability of the school, there will be an easy footpath connectivity to the village and the school, it is next to the village hall and play area. The houses are in flood zone 3 but there have been no objections from the Internal Drainage Board or the Environment Agency, all surface water would be dealt with on site using Suds drainage. Highways support the application, the Police Architectural Liaison Officer supports the scheme and will award Secure by Design certification and more importantly, over 100 local people support the scheme.
Members asked questions of Fiona Coulson.
Councillor Mrs Laws asked for clarification that when the scheme had been presented that the Parish Council were in favour of the scheme to which Fiona Coulson replied stating that Roddons had worked with the Parish Council for four years; Councillor Mrs Laws stated that the information Members had were that the Parish Council were not in support of the application. Fiona Coulson explained that the current Parish Council was not in support of the scheme but that Roddons had been working with them for four years to identify a site, identify housing need with Cambridgeshire Acre but that the current Parish Council did not support the scheme. Councillor Mrs Laws asked that when the first scheme was being considered in discussion with the Parish Council, were they aware that social housing to rent was being looked at or was it a right to buy scheme, to which Fiona Coulson replied stating that as an exception site it had to be affordable housing which can be rent or shared ownership; Roddons have developed affordable housing schemes on exception sites in Newton and Parson Drove and have not yet been able to do one that has shared ownership therefore the likelihood was that this scheme would be for rent. Councillor Mrs Laws asked if the Parish Council were aware of that to which Fiona Coulson stated that it was always going to be for affordable housing rent and shared ownership, they would not want to make a promise of shared ownership because the cost of building exception sites were high.
Councillor Cornwell stated he was equally confused as the report before committee members clearly states that the Parish Council state that the application for rented properties were not for first time buyers and as this did not agree with their policy of affordable housing in the village then the Parish Council were unable to support the application. Councillor Cornwell asked that once the Parish Council had discovered that Roddons had to develop a rental scheme then they changed their mind even though five sites had been looked at in conjunction with the Parish Council and they had agreed with Roddons that this would be the site to apply for. Fiona Coulson stated that it was never going to be 100% shared ownership and that there was always going to be some rent on the site and it had been minuted in the Parish Council meetings that they had supported the scheme at the time but she understood that the current Parish Council no longer supports the scheme and had been told the change had been related to the fact that it was tenure.
Councillor Mrs Hay asked Fiona Coulson if there had been a big change in Parish Council councillors since the election to which Fiona Coulson stated she did not have that information but there had been some change of personnel on the Parish Council.
Councillor Owen asked if there was a waiting list for these properties to which Fiona Coulson stated that some families have already registered that had connections with the village and that there were currently ten families they were aware of and because this was an exception site then Roddons would advertise the opportunity via newsletters and posters to identify people that would not normally register due to being unaware that they could receive social housing therefore Roddons would do a "call-out" before letting any properties; the same happened in both Newton and Parson Drove. Councillor Owen stated that if Roddons built these dwellings then Roddons would have the tenants to which Fiona Coulson stated Roddons were already aware of ten people.
Councillor Bucknor commented that the report stated that the applicant had not provided sufficient evidence to establish that there were no other reasonably available sites in the area, yet five had been looked at to which Fiona Coulson replied stating in March when the first application was refused, Roddons were requested by the committee to carry out another call for sites and from that five were put forward and these were reviewed and this site had been selected by the Parish Council as the most suitable.
Members made comments, asked questions and received responses as follows:
Councillor Miss Hoy asked Planning Officers for a comment with regard to the fact that Roddons had not provided sufficient evidence to which the planning officers replied stating that with reference to insufficient sequential evidence was in flood risk terms and in accordance with the NPPF and Fenland's LP14 it has to be shown that there are no other preferable sites and if there are not then the development would be exceptional in some form or another to justify the development in flood zone 3 and that basically, flood zone 3 should be the last port of call for development.
Councillor Mrs Laws stated she was concerned about the change of decision from the Parish Council as she knew that not every member of that Parish Council had changed therefore there was not a vast change of personnel although she did think there had been a change in thinking, which was slightly different to personnel. Parish Councils usually encourage developers to go to parish councils and therefore asked if Fenland District Council had been involved in pre-apps for the original site and for the suggested five sites; has this been mentioned in conversation or is it the developers saying that it is not suitable, is it Fenland saying it is not suitable to which Planning Officers replied stating that in terms of the five sites that was with the Parish Council and the case officer had not had pre-app discussions but she was aware that there had been some discussions with the previous one in prior to the current application. She was unaware of any discussions prior to the first application in 2013.
Councillor Cornwell stated he was confused and annoyed with how events had unfolded because people had not been "playing a straight bat" at times and that he would go against officer recommendation and would use the Health and Wellbeing terms from the report as in his opinion this site did tick many of the boxes as described in the Health and Wellbeing paragraph and hoped that Members and Roddons had all learnt from what had been heard today, as it seemed to him that if the Council are encouraging people to enter into partnerships with organisations like Parish Councils then they should also engage with Fenland District Council officers on pre-apps within that same process to prevent this situation happening again as it could be thought that the applicant was pushed into that direction for that piece of land knowing full that there was cases that planning would use against them; as this can happen. Therefore, using the Health and Wellbeing terms with the plan, he personally would go against officer recommendation.
Councillor Miss Hoy stated she was concerned that the address received today as it was clearly stated that the Parish Council decided to oppose the application when they became aware it was for rented housing and their policy was to not have social rented housing, therefore where would these people live and she thought it was very dangerous and if Members did refuse the application then it must be made clear that it was nothing to do with that and wished to make it clear that she was not very happy about it.
Councillor Mrs Laws stated she agreed with Councillor Miss Hoy and Cornwell but that her concern was that this application is within flood zone 3; she was aware there was a balance but was struggling as there was the school's future to think about, people need housing but if the committee went against the policy then this would create a precedent and therefore she could not vote but agreed in principle with Councillors Cornwell and Miss Hoy.
Councillor Mrs Hay stated that the letter received from Councillor Mathias was reprehensible as it was clearly biased towards home buyers rather than rented; the site is in flood zone 3 and clearly in an agricultural area, not within the footprint of the village and therefore she supported the officer's decision.
Councillor Owen agreed with Councillor Mrs Law's comments with regard to need and support of the village and stated he would vote in favour of granting the application.
Proposed by Councillor Owen, seconded by Councillor Cornwell; to go against Officers' Recommendation to approve the application due to identified need for the application - with the Chairman having the casting vote and decided that the application be:
AGREED against officer recommendation due to the needs of the people who require accommodation and the Health & Wellbeing comments included within the report:
- subject to the completion of a Section 106 for Affordable Housing; and
- with delegated authority given to the Head of Planning to agree conditions.
(Councillors Mrs Clarke declared a Non-Pecuniary Interest by virtue of being the Ward Councillor of Tydd St Giles and therefore retired from the meeting for the duration of the discussion and the voting thereon.)
(Councillor Sutton declared a Non-Pecuniary Interest, by virtue of being involved in the opening of Roddons Social Housing and therefore retired from the meeting for the duration of the discussion and voting thereon.)
(Councillor Mrs Hay and Murphy stated they were Members of Chatteris Town Council, but take no part in planning matters.)
(Councillors Mrs Clarke, Mrs Laws and Sutton registered, in accordance with Paragraph 2 of the Code of Conduct on Planning Matters, that they had been lobbied on this application.)