Further to minute P151/11 of 9 May 2012.
Members considered letters of objection and support.
Officers informed members that:
- three additional letters have been received raising concerns that the proposed Tesco is too close to residential property, raising doubts that the alternative Station Road site would be built and concern regarding traffic issues
- a letter has also been received from Taylor Wimpey noting that they own the nursery site and have granted Harrier an option to purchase. They note that Larkfleet cannot build its current roundabout without the agreement of Taylor Wimpey to sign a Section 278 Agreement and it is willing to sign an agreement so long as Harrier's position is protected in relation to their delivery timetable. They suggest that both the Harrier and Larkfleet schemes are easily capable of minor modification to accommodate either of the proposed roundabout schemes
- a letter has been received from Gateley LLP on behalf of the Co-operative Group, who note that the Co-operative Group object to both proposals and suggests that the Station Road site remains an important material consideration in the determination of both of the Eastrea Road applications - they state that because the Council has not revoked the Station Road consent or currently executed the Station Road site then the Station Road consent remains an important material consideration, as taken cumulatively with the Eastrea Road site it will harm the vitality and viability of the town centre. They also suggest further detailed analysis of the attributes of the Station Road site and the Eastrea Road site (Harrier) should be undertaken before a decision is taken and the application be deferred
- an additional letter dated 23 August 2012 has been received from ICIS Consulting Ltd, acting on behalf of Harrier Developments, stating that Harrier and the landowner Taylor Wimpey have attempted for some considerable time to reach agreement with Larkfleet, but Larkfleet have been unwilling to co-operate. Supporting information is attached to the letter which notes that the County Council will not permit the construction of the Larkfleet Homes roundabout until agreement is reached with Harrier and Wimpey. It is noted that no third party agreement is required to construct the proposed Harrier roundabout
- a further letter has been received from ICIS Consulting Ltd dated 29 August 2012, where it is proposed that rather than provide a monetary contribution of £150,000 Harrier would prefer to provide a Hopper bus service. In addition, Harrier has offered a voluntary Market Square Enhancement Contribution of £250,000 payable prior to the food store opening. The contribution would include works to relocate/improve the bus staging area, improvements to lighting, additional street furniture and hard and soft landscaping improvements
- officers note the offer of these specific contributions and would recommend acceptance of the Market Square Enhancement Contribution as proposed. Provision of a Hopper bus service rather than a monetary contribution would be an acceptable alternative and these items would be included within a Section 106 Agreement if members are minded to approve the application.
Members received a presentation, in accordance with the local council participation procedure, from Councillor Mrs Laws of Whittlesey Town Council. Councillor Mrs Laws made the point that the Harrier Developments and Sainsbury supermarket applications were submitted at different times to Whittlesey Town Council as consultees and this is why the Town Council supported both applications when they were originally submitted.
Councillor Mrs Laws expressed the view that the application for Harrier Developments does not bring or offer a contribution to a much-needed bypass or relief road for Whittlesey Town or the A605, with Whittlesey remaining the only Fenland town without a bypass, which seriously impairs its growth and economic opportunities. She made the point that the site is considered derelict, but feels that the applicant has already disposed of an established hedgerow adjacent to Eastrea Road leaving the site a complete eyesore when entering or leaving Whittlesey for a considerable amount of time, with the site appearing to be more derelict than before and in a very poor state of care.
Councillor Mrs Laws expressed the opinion that both applications before members today for an out of town supermarket are outside of the Development Area Boundary (DAB), but she feels the emphasis appears to be that Harrier Developments site abuts the present DAB line and Sainsbury's is approximately 180 metres away from it. She made the point that this former Eastrea Nursery site gained full planning permission for 69 dwellings in December 1997 and she feels that it is logical that this would be a natural extension for housing development and not an out of town supermarket.
Councillor Mrs Laws stated that last week Town Councillors held a meeting to discuss the latest draft Core Strategy, which is out for consultation, and it is known that there are approximately 550 dwellings in the pipeline, but Whittlesey falls short of sites for a further 600 properties required as the draft Core Strategy states the need is for 1,100 dwellings. She asked if it made sense to lose a housing development site and from viewing the draft Core Strategy this application site is definitely earmarked for housing.
Councillor Mrs Laws expressed the view that the principle reason for deferring all three applications in May 2012 was to request an independent survey asking one vital question - what would be the cumulative impact should the Sainsbury's application gain approval on the Eastrea Road site and should Harrier Developments decide to build a food store at its approved site located in Station Road - which she feels has not been asked or answered fully. She asked why the Roger Tym and Partners report was amended and what and why this was amended before being presented at this meeting?
Councillor Mrs Laws referred to the Roger Tym and Partner report, which states that the Station Road site unattractiveness to a food store operator is further compounded by the significant impact of the level crossing on the access to site, making the point that this is nothing new and Harrier Developments must have taken this into account when submitting its planning application for the Station Road site. She made the point that construction has never started and Whittlesey is still waiting for an out of town food store.
Councillor Mrs Laws referred to the change of enhancements at the twelfth hour from Harrier for a Hopper bus service and a monetary contribution for Market Place enhancements, which has not been mentioned previously. She stated that she understands that Harrier Developments build and lease the store to Tesco's for a period of 25 years, asking what happens before or after 25 years should Tesco's decide to vacate the premises; will Whittlesey be left with an empty store or with a new occupant that is a non-food store?
Councillor Mrs Laws expressed the opinion that Whittlesey is already well furnished by Tesco's trading in Ramsey, March, Wisbech, Stanground, Hampton and Peterborough, with a further store to be located in Chatteris, which has gained planning permission, but is waiting to be built. She feels that many Whittlesey residents have registered the fact that they would welcome another retail outlet offering them a choice.
Councillor Mrs Laws made the point that there still seems to be differing comments from several parties on the road structure and access roundabouts. She again referred to Roger Tym and Partners report, which states that "it is unlikely that one of the top four operators would bring forward a smaller store format on Station Road if a competing operator brings forward a larger format on Eastrea Road".
Councillor Mrs Laws expressed the view that Harrier Developments/Tesco have presented their proposals on a "take it or leave it" basis with little apparent concern for the future of Whittlesey as a community. She notes that it is officers' recommendation to approve this 'swap shop' planning application arrangement, but stated that the majority of the Town Council are not in favour of pursuing this application and would ask members to refuse it.
Councillor Mrs French referred to Councillor Mrs Laws stating that Whittlesey needs another 500 houses, but it is her understanding that the Town Council were opposed to the application from Larkfleet Homes, so asked her does the Town Council welcome a residential development on this site? Councillor Mrs Laws advised that the Town Council was not opposed to the principal of additional dwellings on the Larkfleet site, however that the Town Council had site specific issues with the Larkfleet site as part of the site lies in a flood zone area.
Members received presentations, in accordance with the public participation procedure, from Mr Connolly of Larkfleet Homes, Mr Pepper of the Co-operative Group, and Mr Parker of Whittlesey Business Forum, objectors to the proposal. Mr Connolly informed members that he is Land Director for Larkfleet Homes and he reiterates Larkfleet's position in that it has consent to the north of the Harrier Developments site for 460 houses, care facility and ancillary retail.
Mr Connolly referred to the fact that it has been reported that Larkfleet cannot reach agreement with Harrier, but made the point that it will not reach agreement as Larkfleet will not move to a position that Harrier wants it to. He stated that Larkfleet has an approved roundabout on highway land, which has always shown access into the Harrier scheme and it does not require Harrier to sign a Section 278 Agreement.
Mr Connolly stated that a field access does need to be closed to accommodate the approved roundabout, which is a legal matter that Larkfleet would be undertaking. He reiterated that it was reported at the last meeting that an agreement has been reached with Harrier, but made the point that this was a false and misleading statement, as it does not have agreement with Harrier. He does not understand why Harrier do not want to use the roundabout position that has been approved?
Councillor Mrs French acknowledged that Larkfleet has permission for 460 dwellings, but she thought the care aspect to the scheme had been removed? Mr Connolly advised that it has, but it may go forward in the future. Councillor Mrs French made the point that the Section 106 contribution was reduced to enable Larkfleet to deliver the homes, asking when this was to take place? Mr Connolly advised that Larkfleet is looking to start the scheme early next year.
Councillor Miscandlon referred to the officers' update asking for comment on the statement that "supporting information is attached to the letter which notes that the County Council will not permit the construction of the Larkfleet Homes roundabout until agreement is reached with Harrier"? Mr Connolly advised that no agreement has been reached with Harrier, Harrier will not move its position and Larkfleet does not see why it needs to move its position. He stated that the closing of a field access to enable the roundabout is a separate legal matter.
Mr Pepper of the Co-operative Group stated that what he is about to say is in relation to both superstore proposals as it feels that both schemes contravene policies. He asked members to consider whether they want to protect the Town Centre, with them being advised previously that the Station Road site would have an adverse impact on the Town Centre, and it could now be faced with one, two or maybe three food stores.
Mr Pepper expressed the opinion that Station Road has an existing consent and until it is revoked this should be taken into account in the retail assessments of the applications. He feels the proposal would impact on the Town Centre, which is already threatened by the Station Road application.
Mr Pepper referred to the fact that Tesco is expected to provide linkages to the Town Centre, which he feels is a token gesture rather than creating linkages, asking why anyone would want to visit the Town Centre when they could do all their shopping at the store? He feels the existing Co-operative Store is an anchor in the Town Centre and by approving both applications it would reduce the footfall in the town.
Mr Pepper made the point that the Co-operative is not anti-competition, it welcomes further investment in the Town Centre, but it feels that one, two or three food stores in an out of centre location does not provide a level playing field for the Co-operative to compete. He expressed the opinion that these proposals would have an adverse impact on the vitality and viability of Whittlesey Town Centre as a whole, and a supermarket should be located in the right place in the Town Centre to fulfill its economic and social role.
Mr Pepper expressed the view that both applications should be deferred until the retail assessment takes into account the Station Road site.
Mr Parker of Whittlesey Business Forum stated that it is the opinion of his members that this proposal offers no advantages to Whittlesey Town Centre, it is purely for the benefit of Tesco, with no additional features and on land allocated for residential use. He expressed the view that the proposal carries no extra advantages and would mean fewer visits to the Town Centre and no benefits in terms of extra employment or recreational facilities.
Mr Parker expressed the view that Tesco has refused to talk to them about either the Station Road or Eastrea Road site, with the Station Road site having sat empty for two years, suggesting that Tesco have waited for someone else to do something and then take action by submitting this proposal. He raised concern that if permission is granted what guarantee is there that the permission would not be 'sat on' again, believing that Tesco would have ways or means to get out of its legal agreement.
Mr Parker stated that the Business Forum recommends refusal of this proposal.
Councillor Miscandlon asked Mr Parker how many local businesses does the Business Forum represent, believing that it is a small number in the Whittlesey area? Mr Parker advised that the Business Forum represents 25 businesses and, in his view, these members are more in touch with the people of Whittlesey than anyone else in the town. Councillor Miscandlon asked for clarification on his comment that there would be no extra employment on the Tesco site? Mr Parker advised that there would no extra employment over and above the permission that exists on Station Road, whereas the other scheme has facilities for other businesses to be opened in the area.
Members received a presentation, in accordance with the participation procedure, from Councillor Curtis in objection to the proposal. Councillor Curtis started by stating that Tesco does not adhere itself to the people of Whittlesey by flyposting around the town and he is not happy with what Tesco has done today.
Councillor Curtis expressed the opinion that the idea of quashing planning permission on a totally separate site is questionable and being challenged, referring to his asking of officers twice for examples of precedents, which he received yesterday evening. He stated that the first is a Wisbech agreement with Tesco, which, in his view, can be discounted as a relevant agreement because Tesco has ultimate control of the land being disposed of, and the second is an agreement in Huntingdonshire, which is incredibly complex and he has not had time to analyse properly. However, it is not the same circumstances as this proposal, but it does seem to suggest that quashing is possible, but it must have the agreement of the landowners, and members should get an unequivocal guarantee that they have seen evidence from the landowners that they are in agreement with this quashing.
Councillor Curtis referred to the Vectos and Roger Tym and Partners report, which prove what the people of Whittlesey already know that if either of the planning applications is approved, Station Road is not viable. He feels that the officer recommendation is based on the fact that two viable supermarkets would have a negative impact on the Town Centre and it is clear that only one of those supermarkets would be viable, with his survey showing that less than 5% of residents would use the Station Road supermarket if there was one in Station Road and Eastrea Road. He would argue that the level of business that Station Road would generate would be at such a low level it would not impact on the Town Centre.
Councillor Curtis welcomed the offer of the Hopper bus service and financial contribution to the Market Place, but made the point that this offer is last minute and it has been known for a long time what Sainsbury's is offering, believing that they may be willing to offer the same. He referred to the argument that the Tesco site is brownfield and, therefore, better than the greenfield Sainsbury's site, making the point that there is not enough brownfield land allocated for 1,100 homes for Whittlesey in the Core Strategy and it has to be assumed that an economic strategy is going to identify land for enough jobs to make that additional housing sustainable, therefore, if the Core Strategy is to be delivered greenfield land is going to be essential for business and housing development, which, he feels, would make the Tesco option less desirable than a mixed use Country Park/supermarket development that preserves a large part of the open space.
Councillor Curtis expressed the opinion that he cannot see how Tesco can pass the sequential test and Sainsbury fail it, when the difference to the respective front doors from Cemetery Road roundabout is approximately 70 metres, feeling that they either both fail or both pass. He referred to an appeal judgment that he had produced in a pack to members that says "there must be a sequential advantage if one out of centre site could achieve better town centre linkages than the other", making the point that in this instance it was a site 1500 metres away from a Town Centre compared to one 1000 metres away, and these proposes a 70 metres difference.
Councillor Curtis expressed the view that he cannot see how members can give weight to the argument put forward by Tesco, in particular if Station Road and Eastrea Road are developed, with it being impossible to say that this has the equivalent impact on having two supermarkets when one of them is clearly unviable.
Councillor Mrs French asked Councillor Curtis to explain his comments about what Tesco has done today? Councillor Curtis advised that he has received complaints from residents about flyposting around the town, which he feels is absolutely scandalous. Councillor Mrs French made the point as Portfolio Holder that she hopes the Tesco will remove these posters and that she will be asking for a warning letter to be sent to them.
Members received a presentation, in accordance with the public participation procedure, from Mr Golbourne, a supporter of the proposal. Mr Golbourne informed members that he is the owner of the Station Road site, which is where the existing Tesco planning permission lies and, in his view, the land that has been optioned to Harrier and Tesco has sterilised the site and the sooner the decision is made, with everyone accepting that Eastrea Road is a better site, the sooner the Station Road site can be developed.
Mr Golbourne advised that of a 12 acre site on Station Road, 7 acres of land has been optioned to Tesco and of the remaining 5 acres, a 12,000 square foot workshop has just been completed and a new 10,000 square foot recycling facility is being built, which would create 30 new jobs in Whittlesey. He expressed the view that when new jobs are created it brings out of town money into the area, with 200 new jobs being created on his Station Road site in the last 36 months, and he provided members with the new businesses in this area and the numbers of jobs created.
Mr Golbourne stated that it is an advantage to him if Tesco move to the Eastrea Road site as it would release 7 acres of land that he would develop. He made the point that the second the decision is made the option would be ended and there is no question about whether he will or will not sign a Section 106 to remove the existing permission, it would be signed instantly the decision is made to move Tesco to Eastrea Road.
Mr Golbourne stated that he has lived in Whittlesey for 30 years and this decision has been a long time coming, with Whittlesey needing a supermarket sooner rather than later.
Members received presentations, in accordance with the public participation procedure, from Mr Prichard and Ms Dent, on behalf of the applicant for the proposal. Mr Prichard informed members that he Director of Planning at Marrons, who are the planning consultant for Harrier Developments.
Mr Prichard expressed the opinion that planning permission for this proposal should be granted as there is, in his view, no sequentially preferable site available in terms of impact, with it not being materially different to the Station Road scheme and falling within an area identified for the future growth of Whittlesey. He expressed the view that the access is suitable and the County Council has accepted the roundabout.
Mr Prichard made the point that officers have advised members that the proposal is considered to comply with the Core Strategy, NPPF and the Local Plan, and the contractual position with Tesco is sound. He stated that the Station Road site is a material consideration, with the effects of the level crossing being known by Tesco before signing up to this site.
Mr Prichard stated that the proposal would provide an half hour hopper bus service to the town, which was part of the original scheme from Harrier that was subsequently changed to a financial contribution. He feels there is no evidence to support determination of the proposal against policy and asked members to endorse the officer recommendation.
Ms Dent informed that she is representing Harrier Developments and has been working on this project for five years. She expressed the view, after listening to others speaking, that the whole impact on the Town Centre is being downplayed, making the point that two out of town stores cannot be allowed to happen, and she feels that opinion is being based on the assumption that the Station Road site would not happen or trade, but there is a contract with Tesco and a permission at Station Road, which has the ability to trade as well as any other store would and cannot be disregarded.
Ms Dent expressed the opinion that if two stores were allowed they would compete against each other, which would create concern for the Town Centre. She made the point that retailer preference is not a planning consideration and she has grasped from local people that they want a supermarket, which, in her view, means Sainsbury does not have a greater pull than Tesco.
Ms Dent referred to the comments of Mr Parker who represents 25 businesses and stated that she telephoned 22 businesses in town, with only 5 being members of the Business Forum, therefore, she feels that Mr Parker does not represent businesses views and she is concerned about businesses in the town, especially if two stores are granted. She stated that a contribution has been offered to the town for the Market Place, which can be used to relocate the buses from this area and, in her view, this proposal is a strong solid plan that can be built quickly.
Councillor Mrs French expressed her amazement at Ms Dent's comments in relation to removing the buses from the Market Place as this is a decision for the Council and the people of Whittlesey. Ms Dent advised that in her opinion it was what the town wanted, but it would not be specific for this use and would be for the community to spend as they wish.
Members received presentations, in accordance with the public participation procedure, from Ms Gosling and Mr Thomas, on behalf of the applicant for the proposal. Ms Gosling acknowledged the difficult task that members have to make, with much evidence and more arguments on both sides to come, but she feels one of the most important things to keep sight of is the fact that how can a supermarket be provided without harming the Town Centre, with the town only being able to support one, and there is already permission for one on Station Road, which can be moved to a better site on Eastrea Road, and by approving both Tesco and Sainsbury's together the town would be damaged.
Ms Gosling stated that Tesco has an on-going commitment to advertise businesses and groups within its stores, it would provide a Hopper bus, which can be enhanced with Town Centre signage, the store would offer to join the Chamber of Trade to share ideas and expertise to enhance the town and it has made £900,000 of contributions to charities within the town. She feels that the proposal has a huge level of support and the 750 letters of support from local people should not be ignored.
Ms Gosling expressed the opinion that the decision is about what is best for the High Street and should be an evidence based process, with evidence provided to members by experts showing that this proposal should be approved for the sake of the town. She urged members to support officers' recommendation for approval.
Councillor Mrs French referred to the fact that Tesco says it is committed to build stores throughout the country, but asked Ms Gosling what is happening with the Chatteris and Wisbech stores? Ms Gosling advised that consent for Chatteris was only signed off in April, it has had to wait until the end of July for the Judicial Review period to end and Harrier Developments are now in the process of negotiating on highway issues, which should be completed by 5 September, and then works will commence on site.
Councillor Mrs French referred to the 750 letters of support and asked Ms Gosling for confirmation that the majority of these were proformas? Ms Gosling advised that proformas still count as a valid letter of support.
Councillor Connor asked Ms Gosling for indication on when the store in Wisbech is going to commence as this has been on-going for some time? Ms Gosling advised that consent was only granted last year and to enable the store to transfer to the new site the current site would become a business park, with 50% of the units needing to be let before this can proceed and it is nearly at this point. Tesco is in the process of buying the other site and as she is sure members can appreciate multi-million pound operations take time to complete.
Councillor Bucknor asked Ms Gosling if the Hopper bus would be an on-going service or time limited? Ms Gosling advised that her colleague who is speaking next would be in a position to answer this question.
Mr Thomas informed members that he is a consulting engineer and is the Highway Consultant for Tesco. Mr Thomas stated that the access and roundabout to the Eastrea Road site can be undertaken on its own land, involving no third party land, and the County Council would enter into an agreement for the roundabout, with Larkfleet's needing the closure of the Eastrea Nursery entrance. He expressed the view that the County Council has again confirmed this to be the case and that Harrier Developments and Taylor Wimpey have tried to resolve the issue in relation to the roundabout with Larkfleet, but it has declined to proceed to date with an agreement.
Mr Thomas reiterated that principal discussions did take place with Larkfleet, despite the comments of Mr Connolly, and that a further analysis has been carried out on the level crossing and submitted to the Council. He made the point that neither Harrier Developments or Larkfleet's roundabouts are affected by Sainsbury's proposal and, in his view, the Harrier Developments Eastrea Road site can be satisfactory accessed without detriment to the Larkfleet residential scheme by the construction of either roundabout.
Councillor Bucknor reiterated his question of whether the Hopper bus would be an on-going service or time limited? Mr Thomas advised that funding would be provided for seven years and after this period the system would be viable in its own right.
Councillor Mrs French expressed her confusion on what is being offered with this scheme, it was originally going to be £150,000 monetary contribution for transport but is now providing a Hopper bus and a £250,000 contribution to destroy the Market Place? Mr Thomas and officers advised that £150,000 was being provided for a bus service, but Tesco has now offered to provide the service itself, with the £250,000 being a separate contribution within the Section 106. Councillor Mrs French asked if the £250,000 contribution would be used in consultation with the people of Whittlesey, and not just "we are moving the buses"? Officers advised in the affirmative.
It was proposed by Councillor Mrs Newell, seconded by Councillor Quince, that this application, together with the other two being considered at this meeting, be granted planning permission as it was felt that it would not affect the vitality of the Town Centre, which was not supported by a majority on a vote by members.
Councillor Mrs French stated that the emerging core strategy policy CS9 refers to the development of this site as being part of the development to the North and South of Eastrea Road for development including housing.
Proposed by Councillor Connor, seconded by Councillor Patrick and decided that the application be:
Refused for the following reason -
the proposal would constitute development on land which is considered more appropriate for residential development. Residential development is identified as a potential use for this land under Core Strategy Policy CS9. It is noted that there is an identified need for a further 1100 houses within Whittlesey. It is also noted that there is already an extant planning permission on Station Road which can be implemented for a food store.
Members do not support officers recommendation of grant of planning permission for the reason detailed above.
(All members present registered, in accordance with Paragraph 2 of the Code of Conduct on Planning Matters, that they had been lobbied on this application)
(Councillor Stebbing declared a Non-Pecuniary Interest in this application, by virtue knowing a resident that lives in close proximity to the site)
(Councillor Miscandlon registered, in accordance with Paragraph 15 of the Code of Conduct on Planning Matters, that he took part in the discussion of this item at the meeting of Whittlesey Town Council at which it was discussed and stated that he will consider all relevant matters before reaching a decision on this proposal)
(Councillor Stebbing registered, in accordance with Paragraph 14 of the Code of Conduct on Planning Matters, that he was present at the meeting of Whittlesey Town Council at which this application had been discussed but had taken no part)